Cruise Line Smoking Policies
Want to know which cruise lines have the most flexible or most restrictive smoking policies. We’ve highlighted the most important aspects of the major cruise line smoking policies.
This page last updated: August 10, 2011
Cruise Line Smoking Policies
| Cruise Line | In Room | Balcony | Public Areas |
|---|---|---|---|
| Azamara | No | No | As of January 1, 2011, Azamara Journey and Azamara Quest each have one designated smoking area onboard. This area is located in the starboard forward section of the Pool Deck and has a sign indicating that smoking is permitted. All other areas of the ship are non-smoking, including Public Rooms, Restaurants, Pool Deck, Staterooms, Suites, Verandas and Halls. For the remainder of 2010, smoking will still be permitted in the aft section of the Looking Glass Lounge on the port side, but effective January 1, 2011, this area will be smoke free. Additionally there is a non-smoking policy on all components of the land tour portion of all Azamara Club Cruises cruisetour products. For the comfort of all of our guests, we request strict adherence to these policies and thank all of our guests for their cooperation. |
| Carnival | Yes, in Standard Rooms, No Smoking in Spa Cabins on Splendor classes of ship. ****Starting December 1, 2011, smoking will be prohibited in all guest staterooms. Guests in balcony cabins will be permitted to smoke cigarettes and cigars on their state room balconies. Spa staterooms on Carnival Splendor, Carnival Dream and Carnival Magic will continue to remain entirely smoke-free, including on the balconies.**** | Yes on standard balconies. No on Spa Cabins | ***Effective Jun 15 2011 cigarette smoking in public venues will only be permitted in Carnival's dance clubs as well as in designated areas within the casino and casino bar. Smoking (including cigars) will be permitted in designated exterior open deck areas (starboard side) of all ships. Additionally, smoking will also be allowed in the jazz clubs of the following ships: Carnival Destiny, Carnival Triumph, Carnival Victory, Carnival Spirit, Carnival Pride, Carnival Legend, Carnival Miracle, Carnival Conquest, Carnival Glory, Carnival Valor, Carnival Liberty, Carnival Freedom, and Carnival Splendor. |
| Celebrity | No | No | Designated indoor areas where passengers can smoke cigarettes include the port side of one lounge per ship and a designated slot machine area in each ship's casino. Other outdoor areas include the port side of the pool deck and sundecks on each ship, the port side of the Sunset Bar on Celebrity Century and on Celebrity's Millennium class of ships, and the port side aft outside of Winter Garden on Celebrity Galaxy and Celebrity Mercury. Cigar and pipe smoking is allowed only in specially designated sections of the open decks. |
| Costa | Yes | Yes | Designated smoking areas in most public rooms. All restaurants,show lounges, corridors and hallways are non-smoking. |
| Crystal | Yes | No | Smoking is permitted in cabins, on open decks, and in designated smoking areas in most bars and lounges. |
| Cunard | Yes | Yes | Cunard ships are non smoking in public rooms except for Churchills Cigar Lounge and designated areas on open deck. Guests who enjoy pipes or cigars are accommodated in Churchill’s Cigar lounge on board each ship and smoking is permitted in all staterooms and private balconies. |
| Disney | No | Yes | Smoking is prohibited indoors on Disney, and only permitted on Starboard side decks |
| Fred Olsen | No | Yes | Smoking will be banned in all indoor areas, and permitted only on cabin balconies, and on specially designated areas of deck space. Effective by May 29th 2009 on all ships. |
| Holland America | Yes *****Starting Jan 15th 2012 Holland America will no longer allow in cabin smoking**** | Yes *****Holland America will still permit balcony smoking after the Jan 15th change.**** | Most public areas with the have become completely non-smoking. For the past few years HAL has been "tweaking" their policy so it varies slightly from ship to ship. Here are their listed designated smoking areas: Casino, Northern Lights Disco (ms Eurodam, ms Oosterdam, ms Nieuw Amsterdam, ms Westerdam & ms Zuiderdam only), Outside Decks, Seaview Bar (except ms Maasdam, ms Ryndam, ms Statendam & ms Veendam), Sports Bar, Crow's Nest (except ms Eurodam, ms Oosterdam, ms Nieuw Amsterdam, ms Westerdam & ms Zuiderdam), "Our ships do not have "nonsmoking" staterooms; however, all rooms are thoroughly cleaned after each cruise to assure the comfort of our guests. All showrooms are nonsmoking during performances. Cigar and pipesmoking is permitted on the outside decks only." |
| MSC | No | No | On all MSC vessels, smoking is only allowed indoors in the Cigar Rooms, the Casinos and in one dedicated lounge. Passengers can also smoke outside, on one side of the sun deck. The rest of the ships is therefore totally smoke-free, for the benefit of non-smokers. Thanks to the Clean Air Policy, MSC Cruises has said that they are able to satisfy both smokers and non-smokers by having a 90% smoke-free ship." |
| NCL | Yes ***Beginning Jan 2012, NCL will no longer permit in stateroom smoking.**** | Yes | The only public indoor spaces where smoking is permitted are the Cigar Bar and the Casino. Smoking is permitted on open decks. Effective January 2012, guests setting sail on a Norwegian cruise vacation are no longer permitted to smoke cigarettes in their staterooms. Guests who are in a balcony stateroom will be permitted to smoke on the outside balcony; however, cigar and pipe smoking in staterooms and on balconies is prohibited. Ashtrays will be available for use upon request through housekeeping staff. In an effort to diminish the presence of smoke indoors, cigarette smoking is only permitted in the casino, where ashtrays and appropriate signage will be displayed. Smoking is prohibited in all other public interior venues including all bars, restaurants, conference rooms, corridors, restrooms, staircases and landings. Guests may utilize the enclosed cigar bars on board Norwegian Epic, Norwegian Gem, Norwegian Pearl, Norwegian Dawn and Norwegian Spirit for cigarette, cigar and pipe smoking. In addition, the policy allows guests to smoke cigarettes, cigars and pipes in outdoor public guest spaces and open decks, where designated by the appropriate signage. Smoking is not permitted near outdoor venues which serve food, in open spaces such as the jogging track, sport complex, children’s pool and in The Haven outdoor areas. |
| Oceania | No | No | Smoking is only permitted in two outdoor designated smoking areas. A severe no tolerance policy is in place that can include disembarkation of policy violators. |
| P & O | No | Yes | P&O Started a new smoking policy with their three newest ships, and by the May of 2010 they will implement the no indoor smoking policy through out their fleet. Smoking will no longer be permitted inside any areas of the ship including passenger staterooms. Smoking will still, however, be allowed on stateroom balconies and on certain areas of the open deck. |
| Princess | Yes *****Starting Jan 15th 2012 Princess will no longer allow in cabin or balcony smoking**** | Yes *****Starting Jan 15th 2012 Princess will no longer allow in cabin or balcony smoking**** | Smoking is not allowed in the dining rooms, any food service area, or in the show lounges and theaters. Smoking is permitted in staterooms, stateroom balconies, and designated areas. As a courtesy to your fellow passengers, please refrain from smoking pipes and cigars in all public rooms. |
| Pullmantar | Yes | Yes | Pullmantar allows smoking in all public rooms including the dining room and designates a small section non-smoking. |
| Regent | No | No | Cigarette smoking is not permitted in any enclosed dining areas, whether it be the ships' main dining rooms or the alternate dining venues. Cigarette smoking is only permitted in designated areas of the outdoor Pool Grills. Other than open deck areas, the following are the only public rooms or areas where cigarette smoking is now permitted: Seven Seas Voyager: Connoisseur Club, Casino, Voyager Lounge (designated area), Horizon Lounge (outside area only), Pool Bar Seven Seas Mariner: Connoisseur Club, Casino, Horizon Lounge (outside area only), Stars Nightclub (designated area), Pool Bar Seven Seas Navigator: Connoisseur Club, Casino, Stars Lounge (designated area), Galileo's (outside area only), Pool Bar |
| Royal Caribbean | No | Yes, on exterior ocean view balconies, but not on the Interior Boardwalk/Central Park balconies on Oasis Class ships. | Smoking is permitted only in designated areas and outdoors on the Starboard side of the ship. Pipe & cigar smoking is only permitted within the Cigar lounge. If no Cigar lounge exists on the ship, there will be a designated area for pipe & cigar smoking, you will find out the location once on board. |
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I live in Sydney Australia and seem to spend my life having to dodge other peoples’ second hand cigarette smoke. They always seem to be where I want to walk and always seem to be up wind so I am denied an opportunity to not inhale the second hand smoke that has either passed through the smokers lungs first or come off their cigarette directly. I also watch with disgust, the very high percentage of smokers who feel they have a licence to dispose of their butts on the ground.
Anyway, I went on a cruise on the Diamond Princess with my wife and two teenage children in December 2009. We sailed to New Zealand from Sydney (13 nights) and flew home. We all found the cruise to be terrific and excellent value for money. The only disappointing thing was, as described above, we spent our time dodging smokers and at times were subjected to inhaling other people’s second hand smoke – this was not by choice but it was in situations where it simply could not be avoided. We also noticed, that in the most pristine environments, eg Milford Sound NZ, we had the wonderfully clean air experience ruined by someone elses cigarette smoke ! Very annoying indeed. Also, our balcony door had to be completely closed all the time as we had other peoples cigarette smoke “sucked” into our cabin, where it stayed, if we left the door open. I ask the smokers – is this fair to other human beings ?
My non smoking criuse question to anyone who can answer is this. Is there a cruise ship or cruise line that can provide a cruising experience, preferably out of Sydney Australia (but not essential), where you can board a ship for an enjoyable cruise and not be constantly required to “dodge” other peoples cigarette smoke and also be assured that you will actually be able to enjoy the fresh sea air ?
If anyone out there can point me in the right direction for a cruise like this I would very much appreciate it.
By the way, for those of you from the US, UK and elsewhere, the Aust Government is about to pass very strict plain paper packaging for all tobacco products with very graphic pictures on the packets of the various cancers and the like caused by smoking. While this is all very well, it does not appear to extend to the harm and severe inconvenience caused to other non smokers, including those poor individuals on cruise ships who have to work in and smell the harmful second hand smoke and clean up the residual butts.
Anyway, without wanting to be attacked by someone wanting to defend their rights as a smoker, can anyone suggest a cruise ship where you can easily avoid smoke without having to be 110% vigilent and alter your route all the time ?
Thank you.
Mark,
If you find one that is 100%, please let me know. What I do is book early and get high up on the balcony at the very front cabin forward. About the best almost non-smoking cruise line would be Celebrity. Good luck.
Thanks Mike. Does anyone else have any worthwile suggestions?
Thanks again.
Mike is right. We of course don’t know what cruise ships sail out of Sydney, but Celebrity is the most smoke-free of any major cruise line out of the US. He is also right about booking early to get a forward balcony, since when at sea the air is naturally going to flow back along the ship, and if you are up front, there would be much less chance of smoking balconies fore of you. As I have said before (as a non-smoker with a smoking spouse), I don’t for the life of me understand why cruise lines who allow smoking on balconies don’t place their smokers on aft balconies.
Mike, amazing how a guy I was ragging with turns out to be a Nam buddy. Changes my attitude ASAP. I was with 1st Brigade/101st Airborne, arriving in country July 1965 as a machine gunner, also running shotgun on our Hueys. Was field-commissioned as a 2nd louie (had been a college graduate when I enlisted) and was sent back to JFK Special Warfare Center at Bragg for the “short course” as I had already been Recondo-trained (refused to re-up for the “long course”). Then was sent to JOTC (Jungle Warfare School) in Panama, and back over to the 101st Airborne (Army kept thinking I would re-up.).
Ten years later I finally quit smoking in 12/77. It was about as mentally tough to quit as it was to last through Jump School. Mike, you’re right about the military encouraging smoking. The PXs subsidized the cost, but young and dumb as we were, what the hell did we know?
Tim, you’re talking Nam. Were you there?
Mike so funny about you “ragging” the guy and then finding out that the two of you have something much more important in common than your original disagreement. That is the problem with online forums, we only see the words on the screen and not the entire person.
Oceania, Azamara, Regent,Celebrity and Fred Olsen have fairly restrictive smoking policies, (See the chart at the beginning of thread) but I just did a quick search of lines sailing out of Sydney and I came up with Princess, Holland America, Carnival, Royal Caribbean and Celebrity. So here the clear choice for the least smoke is Celebrity.
With Carnival you could book a smoke free spa cabin, but your are going to have to deal with smoke in many of the public areas.
With HAL, you are going to have to deal with balcony smokers and possibly a room that has been previously smoked in. You could however save money by booking a non-balcony cabin and enjoying your ocean views from the smoke free side of an open deck.
Royal Caribbean has a lot of indoor designated areas.
And I believe you said you sailed Princess, or another contributor did, and they said it was like navigating a mine field in order to traverse the ship with out coming into contact with smoke.
EXCELLENT — ABOUT TIME!!!!!
www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4518
And Neil, no I was not there. Lived thru it thru my brother.
www.cruisecritic.com/news/news.cfm?ID=4518 New smoking guidelines from Princess, Holland and Carnival.
Also, as you read the policy you will see that Carnival is just going through the motions and are not really serious.
Thank you for the head’s up guys, I have updated my chart to reflect the new policy changes.
Mike, you are probably right in that many cruisers will just pay the $250 fine and go ahead and smoke in their rooms.
We’ll have to hear back from other cruisers to see if the changes make a difference in the enjoyment for those who prefer a nearly smoke free cruise experience.
-Mike, you are probably right in that many cruisers will just pay the $250 fine and go ahead and smoke in their rooms-
I’m told it’s $250 PER complaint, via either the room steward/ship staff or other passengers on a DAILY check!! I doubt very much ANYONE in their right mind would “cough” up that much $$$ to smoke in their room(s) on a per-complaint/per-day basis.
I guess there will indeed be “smoker cops” perusing the hallways. I for one will be one!!
I am a smoker, and while I sympathise, I and many people I know are very courteous smokers. Celebrity does have the most strict smoking rules, aproximately 99% of the ship is non smoking, there is one side of the pool deck (only in the corners) where people are allowed to light up and on deck 5 in the corners at each end.
what is annoying to me, when I am in my designated area, and people walk by waving there arms, pulling their shirts over there face, and glaring at me. Non smokers have 99% of the ship to hang out in, so I find it odd that ALOT of people choose to walk by the small corner on the pool deck when there are several other options – seems to me it is done on purpose for some strange reason – Princess will be following suit as well in 2012 so you should be happy campers
Louise says:
June 29, 2011 at 11:51 am
what is annoying to me, when I am in my designated area, and people walk by waving there arms, pulling their shirts over there face, and glaring at me.
What annoys ALL of us non-smokers is YOU SMOKING, period!!
Tim: “What annoys ALL of us non-smokers is YOU SMOKING, period!!â€
You’re wrong there, Tim. Nonsmokers are simply those who do not smoke (I’m sure that you don’t know ALL nonsmokers or what they think, even though you seem to think you do). Antismokers, on the other hand, are a peculiar bunch. These are people who hate smoking/smokers. They used to be very few in number, and recognized as disturbed minds, until the current antismoking crusade took hold in the 1980s. Now, a significant number of nonsmokers have jumped on the antismoking bigotry bandwagon. The only interest that antismokers have in nonsmokers is if some of the latter can be brainwashed into antismoking.
Until the 1980s, the vast majority of nonsmokers were not “annoyed†by smoke; smoke/smoking was an entirely background phenomenon. But a few decades of inflammatory propaganda can make a big difference – psychologically – for the gullible. Exposure to tobacco smoke has been manufactured into a “bio-weapon-like†phenomenon. Unfortunately, there are people who lap up this nonsense. Now we have the hand-wavers, the hand-over-the-mouthers, and the easily “annoyedâ€. For a growing number, any exposure to smoke has become all too much – “unbearable†and “overwhelmingâ€. There are those, like members of a deranged cult, who want to be “protected†from even the slightest wisp of tobacco smoke. There are even those that believe that they are “allergic†to smoke. Yet smoke contains no allergens (proteins). Irrational fear breeds hyper-sensitivity/reactivity; it fosters hatred. Currently, antismoking has become a neurotic’s (e.g., the easily terrified, hypochondriacs, somatizers) and bigot’s “utopiaâ€. Great accomplishment!
FTR Antismoking is not new. It has a long, sordid – even murderous (e.g., King Murad) – history, where much of it pre-dates even the pretense of a scientific basis or the concocted idea of secondhand smoke “dangerâ€.
There were concurrent anti-tobacco and anti-alcohol “crusades†in early-1900s USA. These crusades led to a temporary ban on the sale of tobacco in some states and smoking restrictions in most states, and eventually Prohibition immediately following WWI.
www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/ah/1981/2/1981_2_94_print.shtml
Pushed by the Eugenics and Temperance Movements, antismoking (and anti-alcohol) was viewed as in the interests of a “healthier†society. Rather, this fake “purity†promoted irrational fear, hatred, and social division: It brought out the worst in the human disposition. Baseless, inflammatory claims were made as a matter of course by so-called “authorities†and “expertsâ€. Unfortunately, eugenics was embraced by the mega-wealthy and the “educated†and shoved down society’s throat.
Anti-tobacco/alcohol reared their heads in pre-Nazi and Nazi Germany, again as a point of the eugenics framework. The Nazis were students of American eugenics.
www.bmj.com/archive/7070nd2.htm
It was doctors and lawyers that played a leading role in this derangement, as they are doing currently. And it is again embraced by the mega-wealthy and the “educatedâ€.
Nazis, disturbed minds, inflammatory propaganda, manufactured into a “bio-weapon-like†phenomenon, deranged cult???
Magnetic, what the h*** have you been smoking???
Man, please let me know what cruise ships you frequent, we will do our best to stay off them. And tell us, how long have you been on the no-fly list???
Oh by the way, smoking does NOT kill, or does it:
And I’m quite sure smoking does ruin the cruise experience of nonsmokers, antismokers – what-have-you, as well as other HEALTHY people.
you’re posting all this anti-smoking propaganda here?
Magnetic,
First hand, 2nd and 3rd hand smoking does kill. Besides, when you’re in close quarters on a ship you smell like an ashtray. Before the 80′s people tolerated smokers because it was acceptable not to say anything, but guess what we’re now saying it STINKS, so please refrain from smoking around non-smokers and be polite like we were before the 80′s.
I smoke… and I spend my whole cruise in one spot when I figure out where that is allowed to be. AMAZING how many people I get to meet!!!! In fact, I get to meet the hubbies that sneak away from the wives who dont know they smoke, and I get to meet the wives who sneak away so that their hubbies dont know THEY smoke, and it is REALLY funny when you later see them at dinner together LMAO.
Also the staff who are subjected to our smoke, smoke, and in fact wish they could join us.
I have a fantastic time on my holidays in spite of the stupidity of those who dont like smoking. The problem is largely exacerbated as a result of smokers being forced to congregate in concentrated areas. I know for a fact, I HATE smoking in the presence of others, and would much prefer to take a stroll alone and enjoy the solitude HOWEVER not allowed. Also the “Pollution” of butts is because catering isnt appropriate or adequate. If you provide 5 ashtrays to service a ship of 2500 passengers, even if only 10% smoke, thats 250 people, every couple of hours, so a couple of ashtrays to handle that many butts just isnt sufficient. Surely a section of either balcony cabins or balcony-friendly (ie located in reasonable proximity to a smoking zone) could be “allocated” that does not impact on others. Clubs etc now have indoor/outdoor facilities. Yes of course there are still the nonsmokers who want to wedge themselves in the middle of about 8 chainsmokers (yes chainers because its the ONLY place they can have one these days so they make the most of it) and then cough splutter glare and frown as if they shouldnt be subjected to it. They choose to impede and provoke and be careful…. one day someone will retaliate!!!
Tolerance is something that seems to no longer exist. Its not that there are more smokers, there are LESS but the complainers are MORE!!!
Look around when you smoke. The smell you
Have on you and your breath. Dirty and disgusting
Stinky and self centered.
Sonia,
Tolerance is something that smokers never had to do until recent years. Up until the 80′s when anti-smoking really began, non-smokers had to be tolerant in cars, restaurants, outside, inside and on cruise ships and planes. I’m glad the former silent majority have started the outcry for clean air. If you ever gave up the habit, you to would want to breathe clean air and not the nasty smell of smoke and residue left by smokers. Continue smoking it’s your life, but let us have the ability of fresh clean air onboard cruise ships that we also paid our fee, but the cruiseline never said anything about breathing someones smoke while on vacation.
I think it is really crazy that smokers who pay for a balcony can’t smoke. I get the dining rooms etc but my private cabin??? I don’t like drunks that I have encountered on cruise ships but they are not barred. No more cruising for us,
Hey Ellen, that’s part of the serious problem, you can’t even smell why nonsmokers can’t stand your smoking habit,you’re all KILLING yourselves!!
Just because you pay for a room with a balcony you feel you have some right to pollute the air of other’s balconies? No way Jose!!
drug addiction KILLS. Why can’t people like you realize that??
“No more cruising for us,” –EXCELLENT, thanks!! One less smoker.
Greetings Fellow Cruise Talk members. Just a gentle reminder that while it is OK to talk about smoking in general or one particular ship’s policy over another, or even what you think the policy should be…. Personal attacks are not allowed. I went through and took out what I thought was too personal from one commenter to another and tried to at least keep the jist of of what was trying to be said. This forum nor any other cruise forum will never solve the debate, but rather we provide the information here so that potential cruisers can find the policy that best fits their needs.
Hi Arizona,
I think you’re on a bit of a loser here, forums like this one are supposed to be informative.
The smokers simply want to know only where they can/can’t smoke.
Non smokers don’t bother with smoking forums as they have no interest in them.
But anti-smokers will create as much fuss as possible until the whole world conforms to their views.
So, how about limiting comments which conform to your heading
“Want to know which cruise lines have the most flexible or most restrictive smoking policies”
And simply delete any anti-smoking comments which are designed to cause trouble?
Eddie
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Why don’t we stick on the subject.
Tim, this is not a “Smoking Forum”, it is a cruising opinion, information and news sight. The purpose of the above chart is to answer questions about when and where smoking is permitted on a cruise ship. This is relevant to both smokers and non-smokers as some might choose one over another or wish they had chosen one over another because of these policies. Again, while discussion of the issues is allowed, personal insults which detract from the purpose of this page are not permitted.
I believe in freedom of choice. If I want to smoke, fine. If you don’t, fine. I had an aft portside suite on celebrity and since this is one of the last rooms on the boat I smoked on my 800 ft. balcony and the smoke bothered noone. I have been on 8 cruises so far and it appears to me that smoke won’t kill most cruisers but overeating will (most people are huge)! I don’t complain when a 300 lb. man or woman goes into the hottub; I don’t tell them they are killing themselves and they can barely walk. It is their choice. What ever happened to live and let live. People don’t have enough to do!!!
cpt123,
I agree that MOST of the smoke “won’t” or may not kill MOST cruisers, at least while they are on the ship — I can be an exception. I try very hard to remember which area is which so I can avoid them; and ultimately the medical facilities. And, for the most part I meet smokers that are more than considerate too.
I would disagree that overeating is the same as smoking, unless you are arguing that the health care shared premiums of group policies has an effect on “others”. As a smoker I’m sure you would find it difficult to have to smoke just three “small” cigarettes a day and no more or less … it is actually easier to quit smoking and I’d be the first to argue that it isn’t easy although I’ve never had to quit. I certainly have watched/supported those who have chosen to do so.
As you point out it is hard to patrol the entire ship all the time, and where you ended up is not likely to intrude. I’m guessing that there isn’t much “patrolling” in the penthouse suite either!!! That is unless a neighbor happens to complain. (May I also assume that you were only smoking while the ship was under weigh?)
I am pleased to report that on my last cruise, Celebrity Summit, the first newsletter actually had a list where smoking was allowed. That kept me from having to ask guest relations. And, I’m sure it helped the smokers know that there were more places than they might have thought.
Last year I went on a cruise with 9 friends. 7 were smokers and all were constantly going outside to smoke while we were in the bar. In the end they decided to stay out there most of the time.
They all smoked in their ‘non-smoking’ cabin as I don’t think that there are cameras in the rooms yet and the smoke detectors are not sensitive enough. They had various fresh air sprays that covered the smell of tobacco and nobody was any the wiser.
I didn’t like being out on deck all evening and spent most of the 11 days on my own in the bar.
No more cruises thank you.
Jenny, I think you need to go on a cruise with some Non-smokers. I’ll bet you’d have a much better time.
Someone on July 26, 2011 at 10:45 am said “They all smoked in their ‘non-smoking’ cabin”
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Yes, but then there would be nothing to complain about would there?
Jenny,
Since you major complaint seems to be about the only smoking area being outside and you seemed to be more willing to give up your cruising than your friends, perhaps you can use the smoking information on this site to find a cruise line that has “indoor” smoking. Some do mostly in bad weather, others have bars that are under cover but still outside.
Perhaps you might even find a cruise line that allows smoking at least on balconies, and you could visit with your friends there.
As for fresheners, although I might agree that some help I have yet to find one that removes smoke from carpeting, fabric, and the crevices of furniture.
Even if the particles are no longer airborne, they still can get in the next passengers clothing — or even become airborne again. (I am assuming that your friends have told you that they didn’t have an unexpected cleaning charge appear on their credit cards after they left the ship! And, unfortunately, I can see 7 people deciding to smoke in one room and “split” the cleaning cost!!!!)
Jenny says “They all smoked in their ‘non-smoking’ cabin as I don’t think that there are cameras in the rooms yet”
Cameras? Oh that’s the way to go, put cameras in peoples bedrooms, that’ll stop those nasty smokers.
OMG – I just happened on this message board as I was looking for various cruising policies for cruise ships and ran across this place. The absolute frantic nature of the comments and the people who write on this board really struck me.
Nobody is going to die from some whiffs of smoke on a cruise ship. Nobody is going to urp their cookies over a random “smell” of cigarettes. Nobody should be seeking smells in the “crevices of furniture,” for goodnesss sake!! I would think a cruise would offer many more challenging opportunities for fun and educational experiences. I personally don’t like drunks but there are plenty of them on cruises – I just pass them by. I can’t help but believe that most of you people have never been to Italy, Greece or Turkey or anywhere in the Mediterannean – having to put up with “those people” who smoke. Oh, I’m not a smoker.
Judy, you’re right. There’s a good helping of the antismoking fanatics on this board. It’s to be expected with three decades of unquestioned, antismoking propaganda. The gullible have deteriorated into neuroses (e.g., anxiety reactions, hypochondria, somatization) and bigotry. There’s one who believes he has to “dodge†wisps of smoke as if he’s avoiding sarin gas. I’m wondering if his delusion is at least consistent. Is he averse to cooking smoke in the kitchen, or open indoor fires, or candles at the dinner table, or traffic emissions?
Then we have another who’s worried about tobacco-smoke particles getting into furniture crevices and possibly lodging in clothing. As usual, such comments are removed from any coherent context. These particles would be at a barely-detectable trace level and of no demonstrable harm consequence. Also at that level are the chemicals coming from carpet, furniture dressing, and furniture glue. And what about the chemicals in the air fresheners and cleaning agents? Then we have bacterial and viral material all around the place. Cruise ships are notorious for norovirus which can incapacitate large numbers of guests/workers for considerable lengths of time. If pets have ever been on board, there will be animal dander. There will certainly be dead skin cells about, and who knows what bodily fluids and other materials are on bed coverings and flooring. Then what about the particles and chemicals coming from the engine room and from the smoke-stack raining onto the ship when coming to anchor? And what about the particles coming from the kitchens, i.e., cooking smoke?
If one wanted to constantly worry/whine, a cruise ship is a neurotic’s “paradiseâ€. And there are actually considerable hazards (norovirus) and serious dangers such as rogue waves from ship travel. Yet we have people peculiarly concerned/distressed about smoke particles lodged in furniture crevices. For heaven’s sake!!!
“Jenny, I think you need to go on a cruise with some Non-smokers. I’ll bet you’d have a much better time.â€
For a better time, ditch the smokers. You’re recommending ditching the smokers! What about having more reasonable smoking policies? Then everyone of sound mind can have a good time.
Magnetic, agree 100%.
Seems to me as around 25% of the population smoke, 25% of bars, rooms onboard should allow smoking, the smoke haters could have the remaining 75% of the ship without ever having to set foot in a smoking area.
Result, all happy.
I am sorry if my comments were taken the wrong way. It just seemed that Jenny’s friends, who were all smokers were spending all their time outside smoking and not spending very much time with her or enjoying the many things the cruise had to offer.
It was in no way to imply that smokers are not fun or enjoyable people.
From Jenny’s comments do you think her friends were more interested in hanging outside and smoking rather than spending time with her? Maybe I could have said it in a better way. I felt bad for Judy since she seemed to have such a bad time on her cruise, and it seemed it may have been her company rather than the cruise itself.
Just a reminder that I will delete or edit comments that I feel are too personal in nature. Please no personal attacks. You can get your point across with out insulting people. Again I apologize that some of you felt my earlier comments were insulting. If you like I can edit those too.
Hi Arizona.
I don’t think your comments were insulting, I think you’re right.
As she didn’t want to join the 7 smokers having fun outside (who were also joined by the other 1 non-smoker, it seems from her post) this woman needs to find some new friends, prfeferably anti-smokers, then she can sit inside with them and complain about smoking to her hearts desire.
Just another thought, have you noticed how anti-smokers will insist that it’s a “small minority of smokers” when they want everywhere made non-smoking
Yet when they want to complain it’s always a “large number of smokers” IE: 9 friends, 7 were smokers.
Arizona asked
“From Judy’s comments do you think her friends were more interested in hanging outside and smoking rather than spending time with her?”
I’d say, Yup, sure seems that way as they all, including a non-smoker, left her alone, maybe she should lighten up a little, maybe people would enjoy her company then.
Cigarettes and Death — Yes, even on a cruise ship!!
Cigarette smoking causes about 1 of every 5 deaths in the United States each year.
Cigarette smoking is estimated to cause the following:
– 443,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
– 49,400 deaths per year from secondhand smoke exposure
– 269,655 deaths annually among men
– 173,940 deaths annually among women
Secondhand Smoke and Death — Yes, even on a cruise ship!!
Exposure to secondhand smoke—sometimes called environmental tobacco smoke—causes nearly 50,000 deaths each year among adults in the United States.
– Secondhand smoke causes 3,400 annual deaths from lung cancer
– Secondhand smoke causes 46,000 annual deaths from heart disease
I guess smokers in general, either on a cruise ship or not, JUST DON’T GET IT!!
^ But I guess you can always do the classy thing and sneak a smoke or two, or three, or four, or five, six, seven or so in your NON-SMOKING cabin.
Class at its best!
Cruise Arizona, you addressed the question graciously. Thank you.
Arizona….. dear Arizona….. dearest Arizona, why would you delete my post? The person in question has made quite a number of inflammatory remarks.
My [short] comment, devoid of vulgarity, was an attempt at disarming the pretentiousness with some light humor. And you choose to delete that. Why, dear Arizona? Why? [rhetorical]
Magnetic, I agree, his comments toward Jenny were to personal. I should have edited them immediately, but I have to confess I was on vacation when I first saw them and didn’t get around to it. I deleted them now, because you are right, they don’t meet our forum policy of “No Personal Attacks.”.
For Tim, please make your point with out personalizing it. Tim we value your comments but you need to say them with out making it too personal against other posters.
This is the hardest forum with which for me to keep up. My husband tells me I should close out the comments, but I want people to have a forum in which to express their opinions, just our readers need to do it with out getting too personal.
Let me know if you think I should continue to keep it open, or should I close it out to further comments. No sense beating a dead horse, and the issue of smokers rights vs non-smokers rights is not going to be decided in this forum.
Wow, [someone] must be trying to quit smoking before their next cruise, or that [someone] is in serious need of their nicotine fix as that [someone] sounds so nasty.
Arizona, I’d “I close it out to further comments.” The cruise smokers JUST DON’T GET IT anyway.